Welcome to South Yorkshire Fire Brigades Union website.
Ahead of this weekend’s industrial action we have received the following message of support from the FBU’s Parliamentary
The FBU Parliamentary Group pledge their continued support in your fight to protect the pensions you deserve. The
Government should address all eight points of this trade dispute; recognise the Williams Report evidence on age and fitness and the danger to the public of expecting firefighters to work into their
late fifties; and guarantee no dismissals on capability grounds. The Group will be doing everything in its power to build maximum support within Parliament to ensure you are properly recognised and
rewarded for your invaluable role.
To remind you, the group is made up of the following MP’s (Secretary is John McDonnell and Chair is Kate Hoey):
- Roberta Blackman-Woods City of Durham
Middlesbrough S. & Cleveland E.
Ayrshire North & Arran
Connarty Linlithgow &
Dagenham and Rainham
Leyton & Wanstead
Glasgow South West
Hayes & Harlington
Batley & Spen
November 12, 2012
The government is still planning to change firefighters’ pensions. Its current proposals
affect how much firefighters will pay, the age we work to and how much we get during retirement. The Fire Brigades Union has commissioned the independent polling organisation YouGov to survey members
about these changes. The union wants members’ views on the changes. All of responses are private and confidential. The data will only be analysed at an aggregated level and no individuals can be
identified. Please complete the survey here.
South Yorkshire Brigade Officials Statement:
Following a request from SYFR to refer all matters of the Trade
Dispute to the National Joint Secretaries for conciliation SYFBU can confirm that these talks have now concluded with NO agreement reached!!
SYFR asked the FBU to attend the talks when FBU members had shown their anger to the continued attack on their Jobs, their Health
Safety and their Terms and Conditions, by way of an overwhelming decision to ballot for industrial action!
The position at the end of the conciliation talks was weighted heavily towards SYFR. SYFR rather than use this opportunity to
have meaningful talks on a way forward that would resolve all the issues for both sides, used it to insist that more of our members terms and conditions were brought to the table for
SYFR insisted that the matter of our members LEAVE and MOVEMENT of PERSONNEL were put under
review, ALTERNATIVE SHIFT PATTERNS should be revisited and that not one but TWO SIU’s should be brought into the brigade with a MINIMUM rider of
SYFBU entered into these talks in good faith with the understanding that SYFR were in a position to negotiate all the disputed
issues within the trade dispute. It is clear that SYFR senior managers neither had the authority nor the will to make any concessions to resolve the Trade Dispute.
Conciliation talks concluded with SYFBU Brigade and Regional Officials agreeing to present the proposal from SYFR to the FBU
SYFBU Brigade Committee met yesterday at an Emergency Meeting. The proposal presented to them was discussed and deliberated on in
great detail and after lengthy consideration the Brigade Committee felt able to concede to SYFR’s requests on the majority of the areas within the proposal with huge emphasis on improved Industrial
However should the FBU Brigade Committee have agreed to the proposal in full, it would have been duty-bound to compromise on
issues relating to H&S and further job losses. Therefore the FBU Brigade Committee in an attempt to reach agreement made a request to SYFR, that they agree to a change to one area of the
proposal, to ensure that the FBU’s duty to protect its members Health, Safety & Welfare and its duty to protect jobs, was not compromised.
SYFR have REJECTED this request therefore, SYFBU have now been forced to return to the original decision by our
members to progress the ballot for industrial action. The decision that now needs to be taken is on the recommendation to make to the General Secretary in relation to this.
ALL FBU members MUST attend Branch meetings to get the latest
SYFR SHOW DISREGARD FOR TRADE DISPUTE PROTOCOLS
It has been brought to the FBU’s attention that once again some SYFR managers are attending stations
and discussing issues that are contained within the FBU trade dispute. This has previously been highlighted to Brigade Officials, for this to be reported again can only be viewed as SYFR attempting
to circumvent the dispute process.
As part of the conciliation process it is the understanding of the FBU that there is a ‘condition’ agreed by both
parties whereby issues contained within the trade dispute will not be progressed while ever that conciliation is ongoing. The FBU have in good faith abided by this
We are informed that these Managers are passing on the disappointment of some of our FBU members to other station
personnel, that disappointment is based on the level of the information getting out to FBU members. The FBU would like to thank SYFR for acknowledging the disappointment of our members as this only
serves to prove that the FBU are indeed abiding by the agreement, however for clarity for those managers, ALL FBU members will be informed immediately should there be changes to any of the areas
contained within the FBU trade dispute.
To reiterate whilst the trade dispute is live and discussions are ongoing, there is no agreement until all issues have
been discussed and agreed and therefore NO issue that is a matter of the trade dispute should be up for discussion or suggested alternatives be mooted elsewhere outside of the Joint Secretaries
In light of this, if any FBU member feels that they are being involved in any discussions that form part of the trade
dispute, they should refer those responsible to the facts as stated above and should refrain from participating in those discussions. They should also inform an FBU official immediately.
The FBU have today written to senior managers informing them of their disappointment in regards to their
South Yorkshire Brigade Officials Statement:
It has been brought to our attention that FBU member’s that are involved in the current ‘supervisory progression
process’ have yesterday received letters from SYFR informing them that this process is to be suspended.
The FBU can confirm that discussions are currently taking place regarding the payment of travel expenses on promotion which is a
part of member’s current terms and conditions, and is a longstanding policy which has previously been agreed by both parties.
The FBU can confirm that this policy affects ALL FBU members whether they are part of the current promotion process or part of
any future promotion process.
During discussions it was viewed by the FBU that there wasn’t the need for any postponement or suspension of the current process
while this contractual matter continued to be discussed, however SYFR have chosen to proceed with this action and to issue letters to that effect.
Control Member LGPS Update
July 20, 2012
The FBU is holding a consultative ballot for our control members in England and Wales who
belong to the Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS). The union’s executive council believes government proposals are still unacceptable – especially on working to 68 and the way
pensions are accrued and revalued for inflation. The union is asking control members to consider our concerns and discuss the proposals through our democratic structures, before casting your vote.
The issues are explained in this circular. Consultative ballot papers will be sent to control members’ home addresses during the first week